[Clayart] no clayartmail
Paul Randall
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Fri Jul 5 13:00:46 UTC 2024
David Woof,
Love this!
Paul L Randall
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From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of David Woof via Clayart <clayart at lists.clayartforum.com>
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Cc: David Woof <woofpots at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Clayart] no clayartmail
Hi Joel,
Quite frankly "Factoids" are historical comic books usually concealing a selfish agenda bolstered by outright lies to soothe the unwary from the impact of atrocities committed.
From Google: "The meaning of FACTOID is an invented fact believed to be true because it appears in print."
In the European Conquest of the "North American Frontier." The term "Frontier" suggested the farthest reaches of a territory devoid of prevailing human habitation.
So, the justification for wholesale Anglo perpetrated genocide of the existing civilized cultures was to malign these Organized people who lived by (necessary civilized strict laws of order and morals) was to paint them with a broad brush as "Illiterate Savages" who had no right to defend themselves.
Among these People "History" is stated and defined as "His Story."
So with the people of the Australian island. Was it OK to kill them with more sophisticated fire power, because they may have been or were Insane?
Perhaps their warfare methods were with primitive weapons and Hand to Hand combat.
Even in this culture we live in, some folks still feel it is honorable to die for the good of the people if one must.
Were the women, children, and aged, also insane?
Was Shaner and Temple et.al. also, insane?
Instead of believing support of what bias makes our life comfortable, internal honesty must identify illogic when we encounter it.
Yet we are all liars for the lies we tell ourselves and each other to get by on a daily basis. No one is an Island. "You are not PHat dear, it's just that dress doesn't hang right from your shoulders." "Or More to love sweetie. I just love to run my hands over your cute round little Beer Belly you Stud Muffin."
Want to be entertained? There are many exciting works of literature that openly state they were written as fiction. These writings openly defy logic and trust us to suspend belief. (Much like world politics these Daze!!! Hey???)
Misneach,
David Woof....................................................................................................................................................................
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Subject: Re: [Clayart] no clayartmail
I read a factoid years ago, during my youth, about an island among those many islands northeast of Australia. When the Europeans landed on the Island they were shocked at how viciously aggressive the inhabitants were. If I remember right, the warriors would throw themselves at the Europeans, only to be destroyed. At a later date, it was discovered that surface deposits of Manganese were all over the Island. The theory was that it caused neural damage and that the tribes there were essentially insane.
I treat all transitional metals in my glaze lab the same, as a threat to my dying of old age.
Still, I say that the thing that will get you will likely be silicosis. It isn't that it is particle by particle more dangerous. It is that if you are treating the metals casually, you are probably so screwed for having treated silica dust casually.
Joel Fink
Ficklefink Pottery
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Subject: Re: [Clayart] no clayartmail
To all,
The danger of Manganese lies in inhaling fumes during the firing. Those fumes I’m sure affected Shaner and killed Byron Temple, among others. Use Manganese sparingly and in a well-ventilated studio.
Paul Randall
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From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of ronroy--- via Clayart <clayart at lists.clayartforum.com>
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Cc: ronroy at ca.inter.net <ronroy at ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: [Clayart] no clayartmail
Hi David,
Good to hear from you.
I'm onto a well known professor's blog claiming manganese is not toxic
to potters. Nonsense of course but why is someone who is educating
future potters and teachers ignorant to that extent? He was educated
at Alfred and taught there as well.
I'm sure manganese is what did David Shaner in. In those days we were
all mostly ignorant about the dangers in the clays and glazes.
I used to have a dialogue with Carl Platt about the dangers of barium.
He asked where were all the corpses. I said there was a mountain of
dead rats - how could he miss that?
Anyway, more to come about the manganese and pigheadedness.
You can almost see the corn growing up here - RR
Quoting David Woof via Clayart <clayart at lists.clayartforum.com>:
> Hi Ron,
> Tell us what you are doing or thinking lately. That will most likely
> get the idea juices flowing for us as well.
> You are always welcome "chewing the fat" at my campfire.
>
> Love,
> David Woof..........................My Muse says that with +104 f
> night time temperatures in other parts of the Earth it is a
> sure-fire condition to distract. (Oh, did she say
> "Fire?")......Don't have to do "rain dances" either she says! Seems
> more than enough fire and rain to go around huh?..........The
> thoughtful little Raven-Haired Vixen usually calls it right in the
> big picture.
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> I haven't received any clayart mail for about a week - what's happening?
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> RR
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> Ron Roy
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